Naz is back, and has received a message from Alan Bates. For those of you who thought Alan Bates was the late actor, think again! He seems to be the same fellow who is caught in the web of Dr. Harold Shipman at this very scam-o-moment!
The Scam-o-staff have always found the Lads kind of funny (in case you hadn't noticed) - even when they're using bad language. But here they overstep the bounds. When you get to the pics you'll see why.
Note, the "attorney" used by Mr. Sherif is using an account on Lawguru, just like the "attorney" used by Mr. Bates here.
I sent the original beg-letter to Disturbing Demographics, and decided to answer poor Mr. Bates.
This saga ensued:
"ALAN BATES, Knockin' at THE PEARLY GATES"
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BATES ALAN Received: ([218.23.37.154]) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:14:21 From: MRBATEALAN@netscape.net Subject: REPLY SOON Dear Friend, As you read this, I don't want you to feel sorry for me, because, I believe everyone will die someday. My name is BATES ALAN a merchant in Dubai, in the U.A.E.I have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer. It has defiled all forms of medical treatment, and right now I have only about a few months to live, according to medical experts. I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I never really cared for anyone(not even myself)but my business. Though I am very rich, I was never generous, I was always hostile to people and only and focused on my business as that was the only thing I cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know that there is more to life than just wanting to have or make all the money in the world. I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way from how I have lived it. Now that God has called me, I have willed and given most of my property and assets to my immediate and extended family members as well as a few close friends. I want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul so, I have decided to give alms to charity organizations, as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do on earth. So far, I have distributed money to some charity organizations in the U.A.E, Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this myself anymore. I once asked members of my family to close one of my accounts and distribute the money which I have there to charity organization in Bulgaria and Pakistan, they refused and kept the money to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contended with what I have left for them. The last of my money which no one knows of is the huge cash deposit of eighteen million dollars $18,000,000,00 that I have with a finance/Security Company abroad. I will want you to help me collect this deposit and dispatched it to charity organizations. I have set aside 10% for you and for your time. God be with you. BATES ALAN RAMONA NAZTIER Dear Sir, You have my deepest sympathy for your condition. You must be suffering so, but you must be comforted to know that earthly suffering is only temporary! I do admire your last wishes, to distribute your wealth among people less fortunate than yourself, and I am sorry that your family members have shown their treachery in your darkest hours. Take courage, for I may be able to assist you. However, I would expect you to give me half of the money. That is my condition. Ramona Y. Naztier BATES ALAN Received: (62.194.4.29) From: "Allen Bates" <allenbates@rediffmail.com> Subject: thanks Dear sir I am most grateful for your mail, and I seize this opportunity to thank you for coming to my rescue and to also let you know that this transaction is a straight forward and legal transaction. I am somebody with a conscience. If this transaction was in any way illegal, I would tell you straight away so that you know what is involved and decide for yourself. But it is not like that at all, and you will later see and understand that. I hope you were not too embarrassed by my first email to you since you do not know me. I had no option since my immediate and extended family in and outside Dubai refused to distribute my funds because they want to keep it to themselves. I didn't know how to move the funds out and dispatched it to charity organizations, so I resulted to putting fate to test and making a random contact. I got your email address from the web email directory and decided to introduce I plight and this transaction. I am communicating with only you at this moment with regards to this transaction. And I would not have any cause to do otherwise, except you state your intention to withdraw your assistance. Just like I stated in my first mail to you, this fund is presently in a private security and holding firm in The Netherlands. I cannot claim these funds myself as a result of, (1) I am under going medical treatment. It has defiled all forms of medicine, and right now I have only about a few months to live, according to medical experts (2) I want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul and so, I have decided to give alms to charity organizations and churches, as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do on earth It is for this reasons I am seeking for your assistance to stand as the beneficiary to the fund and retrieve it on my behalf and dispatched it to charity organizations All the necessary documents required to get the Funds out of the security firm are in my possession and I will be sending them to you after we must have come to a conclusion and reached an agreement. Not before. I need you to give me your words that you will be very honest and straight forward with me when the money gets to you, So long as you can execute this transaction successfully and help me dispatched it to charity organizations. Thus, I would need you to get back to me on the following issues, (1) That you are in a position to be trusted as a God fearing person with such a large amount of fund and dispatched it to charity organization. (2) That you ready to sign a letter of guarantee with my lawyer on behalf of me due to my health problem, clearly stating the terms of this transaction, including your percentages and dispatching the remaining funds to charity organizations, as my lawyer will be a living witness that you fulfill your promise of dispatching my funds to charity organizations so that I am assured that the money would be safe in your hands even when am at the gate. (3) That you are willing to contact the security company to discuss the terms of releasing the funds and bear whatever expenses (if there is any and you will remove any money spend immediately you get the funds) that would be involved so that the funds can be released and the money transfer. (4) That you fully understand this transaction up to this stage and you are ready to proceed under these terms. As soon as I receive your reply that you are ready to proceed under these terms, then I will furnish you with all details including the company and my lawyer's details for the secure of the release of my fund and disposure to the charities. But if you have any questions up to this stage, please ask and I will be more than happy to respond to them.And I will also send you all the necessary documentations to conclude this transaction and the security company details as my life is too short. . Thanks for your mail, your mail has relieved me and I pray to almighty GOD with his infinite mercy to reward you. I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way from how I have lived it now. I want you to pray for me so that God would forgive me and be merciful to me and accept my soul Bellow I have attached my picture for you to see and pray for me. May God bless you, Allen Bates The Lad send me 3 pictures of some poor guy who's all hooked up to LOTS of medical machinery, and who looks more like an accident victim than a cancer patient! Oh, well... Almost the same pics sent to Dr. Shipman by Adamu Sherif.This is starting to be a bit sickening. The poor fellow in the middle photo looks like he's lost a leg, maybe two. Again, faces & some clothing are blocked out. We intend no disrespect to the people whose photos the scammers apparently lifted. In fact we're not sure how much longer these should stay up. But we want you to know, this is someone's suffering used by a scammer for scamming. Update: Removed, see remarks above. Hint: We don't believe for a moment that Master Bates is the guy in the photo. Or Adamu Sherif either. If any of you were feeling sorry for scammers, reflect on this. RAMONA NAZTIER Master Bates: (note from raynaz: Oh, come ON!!! You KNEW I'd do it, didn't ya?) I will tell you right away not to address me as "Sir". Ramona is a WOMAN's name, I am a woman. Why do you change the spelling of your name? Who is the woman with you in the 2nd picture? You say you only have a few months to live, but the pictures you send tell a different story. It looks as though you are nearly at death's door! You look quite well-fed for a man with cancer. People with cancer are usually very thin. How soon should I expect to have my half ($9,000,000.00) in my hands? I will assume that you are in agreement with my condition that my percentage will be half of the money discussed. I will not keep all of it for myself, of course. I will rightfully keep the 10% you have offered, as my "commission" for my assistance to your representative. The additional 40% will be mandated for charities here in the United States, and contributing the remainder to charities in Africa and other 3rd- world countries. Please answer these questions for me, and do remember that I am a woman. I will provide a picture, if that is necessary. Ramona Naztier BATES ALAN Received: from [62.194.4.29] Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 08:03:26 From: Allen Bates <allenbates1@yahoo.com> Subject: Thanks Dear Romano, I will love to see a picture of you.The reason why i use different email address is because i have a greedy and selfish wife.She wants me dead,her and her family got me bankrupted,i was tricked into giving funds to charity but the funds was converted into thier own personal use when the Doctor pronoused that i will not leave long. This funds that is in the netherlands i do not want her and her family to know its whereabout because if i do the funds will be taken away and my aspiration and dreams will not be met. Whenever i feel she has knows my pasword to my email account i change it immediately in other for her not to know what am doing. The picture that i was looking heathy was taken when the disease wasnt serious you cant expect me to send to you a picture that will scare you.I look awfull right now. Do contact my attorney in the netherland i have sent him an email that you will be contacting him.I have introduced you and he will guide and assit you in retrieving the funds from the security company.This is his contact below: ATTORNEY MARK LEWIS DIRECT LINE:31630764005 FAX: +31645246237 EMAIL:marklewi20@mail.lawguru.com Tell me more about yourself and what you do?are you married?,How old are you? and have handled such amount of money before??The percentage am offering you is 20% and no more.The other funds should be for charity.Am offering you 20% because i know you will incure expenses during this transaction. I await your response. Bates. RAMONA NAZTIER Dear Master Bates, Thank you for your quick reply. I must say that I am rather puzzled as to your statement that you will compensate me only 20%. Did you not completely read my mail? I want to use 40% for charities in this country, with only 10% to me. The rest would go to charities in your part of the world. What possible difference could it make to you, WHO the recipient of this money will be, as long as it will go to deserving people? If I am to assist in the conversion of this fortune, I should be allowed to designate to whom a goodly amount should go, shouldn't I? It seems only fair to me. There are any number of worthwhile charities in this country (not everyone in America is rich, you know!) who would be greatly benefitted by an infusion of money from a generous donor, and it would thrill me personally to know that I am in part responsible for the betterment of people here. I will be anxious to hear from you on this issue. As for myself, I am a widow lady, 49 years old, with no children, which has been the source of anguish to me. I would have LOVED to be a mother of at least 4 children. My late husband, H. Simpson Azmina, loved little ones too, but since we could have none of our own, we spent our lives working, and doing charitable deeds. This is how I came to be familiar with many worthy organizations here. Please re-think your offer of only 20%, and agree with me that 50% should be fair. I will await your reply. Ramona What the heck--I'll send him a pic of "Nazzie"... BATES ALAN Received: from [62.194.4.29] Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:40:21 Subject: Re: Thanks Dear Ramona, The picture did not come you.The funds are actually for charity.The 80% will be for charity you can keep 20% for your help.Just let my will be carried out.And this is my legacy. Do contact the attorney. Bye RAMONA NAZTIER Master Bates, I am sorry you can't see things my way. As long as the money was to be used for charitable purposes, the percentage issue shouldn't have mattered. It would have been most satisfying to me, to help you complete this noble effort of yours, before you die. I will think of you often, and hope that you can find someone who will be able to do this for you. Ramona Saturday brings a terse note... BATES ALAN Received: from [62.194.4.29] Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:09:51 From: Allen Bates Subject: Re: Thanks Ok,lets do it your way.Contact my attorney. OK, Master Bates, I will write to the attorney, aptly titled, "Master Bates' LEGACY... RAMONA NAZTIER Mr. Mark Lewis: I have been advised to contact you by one Master Alan Bates (or"Allen", he has spelt it both ways, so I am uncertain) regarding the dispersal of several millions of dollars that he has secreted from his family. As you undoubtedly know, the poor wretch is dying of a horrible cancer, and is most concerned to keep this money from the clutches of these treacherous relatives. Master Bates has told me that this money (some $18,000,000.00 to be exact) is to be distributed among several charities in Africa and other 3rd-world countries, and has further agreed to give me half--50%, not only a 10% commission for my assistance, but an additional 40% for distribution to American charities. I am very involved in charitable work here in U.S.A, and I know a few very worthwhile organizations which would greatly benefit an infusion of cash. The "Chula Vista Widows' and Orphans' Home" comes immediately to my mind, and is one especially dear to my heart. Will you kindly tell me the procedure to insure the successful conclusion of this noble venture? I understand Master Bates is nearing death's door, and I am sure that he would dearly love to see this money in a good place, before he goes to his Heavenly reward. I await your prompt reply. Ramona Naztier And one to Alan Bates... RAMONA NAZTIER Dear Master Bates, I just mailed a note to your attorney, Mark Lewis, and am waiting for his reply. I am so very pleased that you have agreed to my wishes for the $9,000,000.00 that you will pay me. I am particularly fond of a wonderful organization, The "Chula Vista Widows' and Orphans' Home" they are sadly in need of new Yah-Tzee equipment. Again, my sincerest thanks! May I tell you how very happy I am to associate with your fine and noble gesture. Ramona MARK LEWIS (the "attorney") X-Originating-Ip: [62.194.4.29] Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:03:09 From: Mark Lewis <marklewi20@mail.lawguru.com> Subject: Re: Master Bates' LEGACY I am MARK LEWIS, attorney to Alan Bates. You have probably been notified in advance of this contact by my client Bates from Dubai, U.A.E. He has briefed me concerning an ongoing transaction with you regarding the claiming of a deposit he has with a private Security Company in The Netherlands. As a practicing attorney here in Amsterdam, The Netherlands.He contacted me on the premise that I wouldbe in a position to liaise between you and the security company keeping this deposit with the intention ofoverseeing the release and eventual transfer of this deposit to your care, especially considering his health condition that has incapacitated him. Sequel to my brief by Mr.Alan Bates and my subsequent enquiries from the security company, I am passing the following information to you regarding the deposit and its release; 1.The money is deposited as physical cashin $100 dollars bills. the money is packed inside two metallic trunk boxes locked with a special security code only indicated on a document Mr.Alan BATES has passed on to me. I would subsequently pass this code on to you at the stage of retrieving the deposit from the security company. 2. That the security company has no knowledge of the contents of these trunk boxes. Mr Alan BATES purposely did this for security reasons as well to keep the hands of prying relatives and dependents out of the deposit. This is why it has remained the only unplunderedpossession of Mr. Alan Bates.To the security company, these boxes contain very valuable documents and Mr. Alan Bates has instructed that under no circumstances are they to be told that the boxes contain money. 3. Mr Alan BATES has already forwarded to me the certificate of deposit with which the deposit was made.And I will in turn send it to you including a power of attorney authorizing you to conclude the transaction on his behalf. 4. This transaction will require your physical presence here in The Netherlands to endorse the necessary documents for the release of the deposit and have themoney transferred to your account or have the boxes delivered to your country after which the disbursement of the funds is entirely up to your discretion. 5. There is however minimal cost involved in securing the release of the deposit from the security company this is 12,500.00Euros. This is the storage charge the deposit has accumulated for the past three years that the trunk boxes have been deposited with the security company. You are expected to pay this storage charge to enable the release of the deposit. This cost is to be paid to the securitycompany at their office here in The Netherlands when you come here for the recouping of the deposit. These are the basic issues involved in this transaction and the release of the deposit. I will require your telephone number and urgent response to the issues raised in this mail, after which I will provide you with further details regarding this transaction process. If you have any questions arising from the content of this mail, you may ask.The documents i will send to you.Kindly forward to me you details in other for me to prepare the required papers in your name. Regards, MARK LEWIS, TEL:+31-6307-64005 FAX:+31-6452-46237 EMAIL:marklewi20@lawguru.com RAMONA NAZTIER Mr Mark Lewis: I am curious as to these trunks. Have you seen them for yourself? Can you provide me proof they do indeed exist? I have never seen such a thing, I think that would be most fascinating to see. Ramona MARK LEWIS (the "attorney") X-Originating-Ip: [62.194.4.29] Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:55:02 I will send to you the certificate of deposit.Showing the deposit of the boxes to the security company.The cahnge of benefiociary status will be sent if you have agreed with the conditions i asked. Kindly sent to me your contact details,telephone number and addresss Thanks RAMONA NAZTIER Mr. Lewis: When I asked for proof of the existence of these trunk boxes, I rather expected you to send a picture of them--a piece of paper means very little! A picture tells a better story. Do I have to spell everything out for you? I want a picture of the contents. Surely Master Bates would have a picture, which he will undoubtedly provide to you upon request. Then you can scan it, and send as attachment. On the face of it, this does not seem to be a difficult task. Ramona Naztier MARK LEWIS (the "attorney") X-Originating-Ip: [62.194.4.29] Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:52:36 Subject: Re: Master Bates' LEGACY Dear Ramona, What you are asking is not posible as the consignment is in the security vault and i can not go their and take a picture of it.If you are not willing to transact this business you better say intstead of asking too many questions what do you think we are doing? Mark Lewis RAMONA NAZTIER Mr. Lewis: Didn't you read my mail? I did not ask YOU to go to the security company, I wondered if Master BATES had a picture of the trunk boxes and their contents! I simply thought it would be fascinating to see such a thing, that is all. It seems that you are much too high-strung for this association, if you are to take such a tone with a simple request, what happens if you have a REAL problem? I am unaccustomed to dealing with people who are so terse and rude. Perhaps I should bid farewell to Master Bates, and to you as well. Ramona Naztier He must've croaked. MARK LEWIS (the "attorney") Received: from [62.194.4.29] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:46:25 Subject: Re: Thanks Where are you??? RAMONA NAZTIER Master Bates: I contacted Mark Lewis, and asked him if he had seen the trunks. What follows here is the correspondence between us. I wrote: "...Mr Mark Lewis: I am curious as to these trunks. Have you seen them for yourself? Can you provide me proof they do indeed exist? I have never seen such a thing, I think that would be most fascinating to see. Ramona..." Mark Lewis wrote: "...I will send to you the certificate of deposit.Showing the deposit of the boxes to the security company.The cahnge of benefiociary status will be sent if you have agreed with the conditions i asked. Kindly sent to me your contact details,telephone number and addresss Thanks..." I wrote back: "...Mr. Lewis: When I asked for proof of the existence of these trunk boxes, I rather expected you to send a picture of them--a piece of paper means very little! A picture tells a better story. Do I have to spell everything out for you? I want a picture of the contents. Surely Master Bates would have a picture, which he will undoubtedly provide to you upon request. Then you can scan it, and send as attachment. On the face of it, this does not seem to be a difficult task. Ramona Naztier..." Lewis wrote back: "...What you are asking is not posible as the consignment is in the security vault and i can not go their and take a picture of it.If you are not willing to transact this business you better say intstead of asking too many questions what do you think we are doing? Mark Lewis..." I finally wrote: "...Mr. Lewis: Didn't you read my mail? I did not ask YOU to go to the security company, I wondered if Master BATES had a picture of the trunk boxes and their contents! I simply thought it would be fascinating to see such a thing, that is all. It seems that you are much too high-strung for this association, if you are to take such a tone with a simple request, what happens if you have a REAL problem? I am unaccustomed to dealing with people who are so terse and rude. Perhaps I should bid farewell to Master Bates, and to you as well. Ramona Naztier..." Master Bates: When I didn't hear again from either of you, I assumed that perhaps you had died, and not wishing to intrude upon your family's grief, I entered into a partnership with one Holden Mdele. He proposes that I apply for transfer of a bank account belonging to a deceased engineer, a Mr.Stanley Dingup, who unfortunately died on the Sagbama Expressway along with his wife and two children. I will inherit $14,800,000.00, which will enable me to continue my charitable works here in the U.S. for many years to come. Believe me, it is truly a miracle! I do hope you are doing OK, the cancer seems not to be affecting your ability to communicate, if only by e-mail. I will keep you in my thoughts. Ramona Naztier BATES ALAN Received: from [62.194.4.29] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:23:46 Subject: Re: Thanks Dear Raynaz, So what are you saying?Is it that you are no longer interested in finalising my own? Thanks, A. BATES RAMONA NAZTIER Master Bates: Why do you call me by my e-mail name? Did you forget that my name is Ramona Naztier? I even typed my full name to my mail this morning! I am at a loss to know why you cannot address me by my name, after all the correspondence we have had. I do not understand this snub. Perhaps you and Mark Lewis should enter this partnership together, Sir, seeing as neither of you knows how to treat a lady. Ramona Naztier more to come? |