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'Hanna' responded to a scammer's 'rental' ad - and convinced him that she was ANOTHER scammer.
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I read your page with much pleasure, and I have recently made friends with a scammer.

The Players:
Richard Williams - the scammer, aka Pretty Jennifer, aka Ayoola
Hanna Selvbedrag - [ Selvbedrag = 'self-deceit' in Norwegian]


Note: The scammer was not actually using the name "Williams" but another, similar name. Because he was using an image of someone else's real, unaltered passport, the name has been changed here.


Richard Williams

SCAMMER BEGINS WITH SCAM RENTAL AD:

Fra: Richard Williams
Emne: Full details and pictures of apt in {London}
Dato: Fredag 17.. april 2009 00.15

This beautiful 3bdrm, 2 bath, 1 car garage is loaded with amenities: my flat is located at............4 Effie road fulham Broadway London sw6 1ad...

Am working professionals and work early and sometimes long hours.....

My flat is not a shared apt, it depends if you want the whole flat or a single room. there are storage in my flat...2mins to Chelsea stadium(Stanford bridge)2min by car to fulham Broadway station, and 4 min walk to the tube station..., Banks and supermarket are close to my flat...the price of the room include all bills and utilities.....

My house include....
* cable,
* garage, with ample storage!!!
* washer/dryer, All appliances including refrigerator, d/w, oven, washer,anddryer
* water softener system,
* new appliances
(refrigerator, stove, microwave,disposal),
* new central heating system,
* Brand new air conditioning system installed in all rooms
* shaded patio with a fire pit;
* Internet cables in all the rooms
* quiet private road.

Would prefer clean, professional individual (male/female;
gay/straight/bi;republican/democrat/libertarian friendly) who is considerate and responsible.

N.B NOTE.
IF YOU ARE RENTING A SINGLE ROOM AMOUNT PER MONTH IS 350 GBP AND SECURITY DEPOSIT IS 300,THE WHOLE FLAT IS 800 GBP PER MONTH WITH SECURITY DEPOSIT OF 600,SECURITY DEPOSIT IS REFUNDABLE AT YOUR EXIT.

Looking forward to read from you,
Number 07045792485 Richard.

Header suggests he is in Lagos:
Received: from [82.128.45.231] by web112222.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP
descr: CDMA 1x/EVDO Dial up pool
address: Multilinks Telecommunications Limited, Lagos

Thanks, AfriNIC! (www.afrinic.net)

Hanna Selvbedrag

Hanna springs into action!

To: "Richard Williams"
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009

That is a really good deal! Althought not really in my preferred location.
But please, tell me more about yourself.

Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: Fredag 17. april 2009

What else would you like to know? let me know if you are interested in a room or the whole flat.
Read from you soon,

Richard.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 5:33 PM

I am very interested in the flat, but I would like to know a bit more about you.. What is your name? Your profession? Why are you not living in your flat, and why is it so reasonable? Sorry, this is just to get an impression of my potential landlord.

Also, I would like to know if we could arrange a viewing. What about next week?

Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: Fredag 17. april 2009 22.42

My name is Richard Williams, am not living in the flat cos i travel alot for business. let me know if you are interested in a room or the whole flat,
Read from you soon,

Richard.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 10:58 PM

Richard!

Well of course I am interested, that's why I'm asking.

Also, I would like to know if we could arrange a viewing. What about next week? And how will the deposit be arranged?

Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 00....01

Are you interested in a room or the whole flat?
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 12:01 AM

I am interested in the whole flat.

Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 00.25

Thanks for the reply,
Since you are interested in the whole flat, every room has its own personal toilet and bath,800gbp per month with 600 for the security deposit, security deposit is refundable back at your exit..the amount of the flat include all bills... when is the convenient time for you to come for the viewing?
Read from you soon,

Richard.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 12:32 AM

That sounds reasonable. I would like to come see the flat sometimes next week. What about Mon or Tue? What is the best day for you?

Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 00.45

Hello Hanna,
i can see you are serious about my apt, thats why i want to rent the flat out to you....Definitely you can view it anytime but i am presently in Manchester now .Am just been transfer to Manchester now for some business,i need to be sure that you are capable of getting the apartment before i can come to London to show you the apt, imagine a girl ask me to come from Manchester to London that she want to rent the apartment i left to meet her on getting there she told me that she want to rent the apartment but i should allow her to stay till the end of the month b4 she can pay me and the other is on dss....Can you see that bullshit,i need to see a sign that you are capable and you have the money before i can come for the viewing of the apt.... am very sure that you will like the apartment. i cant be stressing myself when am not sure that you are capable.The apartment is available now and you can move in at anytime.
Hear from you soon,

Richard.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 12:48 AM

Well, how would I be able to show you that I have the money? I really don't want to pay anything before I've seen the flat...

Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18.. april 2009 00.59

Thanks for the mail,
I understand you need to view the apt before paying me any money, its just that`s i need to be sure that you have the money to rent the apt before i come and show you the apt... Am still very busy in Manchester now, but will come to London if you can show me you have the money to rent the apt...
I have the easiest way you can shoe me, Ask me how, and i`ll explain better,

Richard.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 1:05 AM

Oh yes please tell me, sweetheart!

Hanna
Richard Williams
Emne: My passport attached below...
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 10.01

Hello Hanna,
The only way for me to confirm that you are capable of renting the apt is for you to get the first month rent and the security deposit send to me via western union money transfer to your friend or anybody that you trust within London here , and scan the receipt for me to see to and confirm from western union and after i confirm it,i will email you to tell the receiver to pick it up and i will be on my way too ,then i will be sure that you have the money to get the apartment. Its for the safety of both parties but am very sure that you will like the apartment. I am NOT asking you to send money to me but to anybody that you trust .ONCE BEATEN TWICE SHY ,I think you understand my position.

The charges that you make at western union will be refunded back to you if you dont like the apartment and if you like the apartment the money will be deducted from the balance you will pay me,i think you understand.
If you can do this Today or tomorrow and i see the receipt send to me,that means you will view the apartment tomorrow even you can move in tomorrow.

i am NOT asking you to send money to me, but to your friend/Girl Friend or any body that you trust within uk here. Afterward you will only scan and send me a copy of the receipt given at the western union for me to confirm and to see if the money is truly transfer and ready for pickup then once i can see that will email you immedietely and give you a call and leave Manchester for London to meet you and to show you in and out of the apartment.

Armed with the money order details, 'landlord' (or crony) beats victim's friend to any Western Union office and picks up the money order

N.B.
Am very sorry, but i dont want to waste my time due to my last experience..... and my lawyer told me again that i need to confirm that the money is available for pick up before i come over......I promise once again even if you dont like the room, i will refund the western union charges and i will give you your transport money.... Please get the money send to me today or tomorrow and send me the receipt again.....

Awaiting your response,
Try my number 07045792485 [UK mobile phone but could forward anywhere]

Richard.

Don't send scammers scans of your passport.

Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 1:27 PM

Hi again pupmkin!

Wow you look so nice!! Maybe we can make friends once we are in you flat, if you know what I mean...

I don't really trust Western Union, my father tells me that they are a bunch of Nigerian scammers.
But maybe we could use Moneygram instead?

Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 13.40

I understand how you feel about the western union... Money gram will be ok for me.. just scan the receipt given to you at the money gram to me once you make the transfer so that i can firm if the money is truly send... once i confirm that the money is truly send, i will call you back and i will also e-mail you to tell the receiver to pick the money up.... Any charges you at the money gram will be refundable back to you.. I promise...
Read from you soon,

Richard.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 2:00 PM

Richard darling,

You really promise me that I will get the refund? That is good. I am a good Christian, and to me a promise is a promise, and if you break it you will go to Hell and get the treatment you deserve. But I don't think you will do that. You seem to nice!

I will try to find a Moneygram office as soon as I can. My cant says hello!

God bless,
Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 00.45 Hello Hanna,
Am promising you once again that any charges you make at the money gram will be refundable back to you.. I promise..... Just scan the receipt for me so that i can confirm from money gram.. I will call you back once i confirm from money gram, and you can tell the receiver to pick it up... whats your favourite colour, i will like to help you buy 3 new bed sheets when am coming to London.. i can see you are a serious person.

Richard.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 3:24 PM

Richard,

Oh bed sheets? My favourite is white, as I believe white is the colour of purity and innocence, and I am a good Christian girl who does not want the bed to symolize anything not pure. I am sure you understand.

But please Richard, why can you not just give me your bank account number? I am more than happy to pay the security deposit (600 punds) right away, but I don't know anyone I trust in London so I can't use moneygram after all. Is that ok?

Also, I would like to see a picture of the house from the outside. I know some of the houses in that area, and they are a bit ugly on the outside. I would like a nice house.

God bless, Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 15.42

Am using my account for some international business... Since you dont have any one in lonodn you can send the money to... I think the best thing now is for you to send the money to me in Manchester....
Here is the details you will be sending the money too.

Name... Richard Williams
Address... 40 Old Trafford - Sir Matt Busby Way M16 0RA Manchester.

Just get back to me once you send the money.. from of my flat attached below for you to see... also certificate of ownership of my property attached below for you to see and it can serves as my insurance...
i can see you are a serious person thats why am doing all this for you... i promise buy you the bedsheets once i see the payment from you today... You can easily get money gram outlet at any bank of post office.
Read from you soon,

Richard.

Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 3:58 PM

Richard!

But.. I don't understand. Even if you ar using the account for international business I could send the money there? it sound a bit weird. Are you playing tricks on me Richard? If you do I will never forgive you..

The other option is that I send the money to my friend in Manchester. You see, I don't want to send the cash directly to you. But I trust him so much, he is a friend of my uncle. His name is Alex Ferguson. Maybe he lives somewhere near you? You could meet up with him and he will show you the receipt.

God bless
Hanna
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 16.18

You can send the money to Alex in Manchester.... and get back to me once its done.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 4:22 PM

Richard,

Please, why are you so rude? I ask you questions and you don't reply. Me and my boyfriend Kayode is not used to having people being rude to us, and we will not accept it from a potential landlord. We are after all paying you 600 pounds.

Where will you get us bedsheets? In Manchester? I would prefer you buying them in London, because the selection is so much better there.

God bless
Hanna
Richard Williams

[HERE IT GETS REALLY INTERESTING]]

Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 16.25

lol.... i know we are the same already... what happenning man...
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 4:31 PM

LOL! Is it you man? I only wanted to fuck around with you. Bedsheats, what are you on about? LOL!
How's business?
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 16.39

Business is ok for me, i dey ogun states where are you from?
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 4:45 PM

Lagos state, but operating from London, Europe. Got 550 pounds today from moneygram and they now want to report me to the police. Lol...
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 16.48

I know its very easy for you over there to make this cash.. add me to you messager and we can chat to know each other very well... pretty_jeniffer202@yahoo.com

Add me and we chat.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 4:52 PM

You sholdnt use messenger. They can track you. New program from met police, everyone in London knows about it and you should spread the word man!
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 16.58

ohh ok... so what can you offer me man... do you get person that can help me carry jobs to yankee..?

[Translation: I need someone to pick up money orders in the USA from victims; we will share the loot]

Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 5:04 PM

Cant help you man, getting difficult here This guy was arrested last week. Mugu used his own name. Are you working alone?
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 17.08

Yes am working alone...
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 5:10 PM

Who provides you with id's?
Richard Williams
L┐rdag 18. april 2009 17.23

from gumtree.com

[See Hanna's comments about gumtree further on]

Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 7:42 PM

Actually.. I been thinking and I might help you contacting akata. If you are trustworthy he can help you in to the yankee market. This offer is not long lasting. I really shouldnt help you.
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 21.57

too many people abut the rental now, so no money always.... Pls i have about 13 address now, and i need the person that will help me carry the jobs.. the jobs na yankee jobs... +2348034862989 .. pls you can call me so that we can talk better... cos i need this job to go by monday or teusday...
Read from You soon,

Ayoola.
Hanna Selvbedrag
Ok I will try and connect you with my boss. Cant promise anything, he is a busy man. Are they all 13 rental jobs?

You will hear from me soon.

K
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18.. april 2009 22.12

Yes the jobs are 13... where is your chairman, and how old are you?
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 10:18 PM

I dont know where he is exactly but somewhere in the states. I need to finish a job now. I will be in touch mate.

K
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 22.25

i understand you will be intouch.. i dey get many address and the people helping me to carry my jobs are idiot with the account that is not good... Pls let me try your chairman link.. and i`ll see what will happen.. hope he is still going to come online..
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 10:34 PM

I can see that you need help so i will try to make my contact help you. I have told him about you and your situation and i am waiting for response. But he is a busy man so patience please.

How much are you paying your people at this moment and how much do you pay for the identifications and papers you use in jobs
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 22.39

Am not paying anyone.. they just help me cay jobs and we go on 50 /50... hope you understand me....
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 10:43 PM

I understand. You are not doing the big business yet. Let me see what i can do for you.
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 22.49

are you on facebook.. if yes can we chat on facebook ?
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 10:56 PM

i have an account, however I will not use it at this point as i am in a delicate place. If you give me your facebook name i can add you when i find the time to chat. If not continue conversation here.

K
Richard Williams
Dato: L┐rdag 18. april 2009 22.59

here is my face book name Ganiu Ayoola Ayodele add me and we talk better.... Am going to bed now.. pls once again help me talk to your chairman, cos i want the jobs to go by monday.... thanks alot guy...

[You can find his page easily enough. Amuse yourself by considering who on his Friends list is picking up money orders for him.]

Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 11:01 PM

I will do my best.

K
Richard Williams
ok.. see you tomorrow... and i will be waiting to read from you...
Hanna Selvbedrag
Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 11:49 AM

My man would like to know where you are working from, and do you know anyone in uk (London is best) who could work from there?
Richard Williams
Am working from Nigeria... and i know alot of people in london..
I do US roommate... and i divert my money to london....

[It went no further, but what a great scambaiting lesson! Hanna says:]

Well it seems like they all use they same language in these rental scams, there is a thred on gumtree

http://forums.gumtree.com/about157751.html (new window)

where victims and almost-victims share conversations they've had with the scammers, and they are surprisingly similar. It makes it quite easy to impersonate them, and ... leads me to think that a lot of these are young and quite inexperienced in the area. They still manage to steal thousands of pounds though, so they are not in any sence innocent.

He also told me he only made 800 pounds this month, and that is apparently not very good in the scammer world.

Another source of information: http://rentalscams.org/ (new window)