THE BATTLE FOR THE BANK

... (in Egypt or Italy or Canada?)

An advance fee fraud scam from a Lad posing as a banker.
Hints of scamminess to come highlighted for the newly arrived reader.
Lou Sindor recently appeared in YOU ARE NOTING BUT A FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Other achievements (among many) include THE BAIT THAT WOULD NOT DIE, NOT A PRAYER and SLAM DUNK.

A new bait for you, not the brightest lad, but a great back-and-forth and confusion.
This bait is ongoing (I think), but the first phase was such a battle that I wanted to share it. I can't remember having to hammer away at a lad this long and hard just to get a bank account to close, but greed won out. Enjoy.

(Warning: this lad is dumb as a stump. He abandons the script early and his command of English is well you'll see. The accountant.com address in the original message is still working if you want to try to hook the same fish.)

The players in our drama include:

Good guy:
Lou Al Sindor - retiree on the island of Molokai
Carl Hiney - Bank of Hawaii, looking out for Lou's interests

Bad guys:
Eddie Patrick, Chief Accountant at Mashreq Bank in Egypt


Eddie Patrick

Dear Customer;
You are welcome to the foreign remittance / online department of MASHREQ BANK.

MASHREQ BANK is the flagship subsidiary of financial services. The bank is primarily active all over the world <snip> Mashreq Bank Group is one of the most dynamic and active financial organizations in the World today.
Founded in 1916, Mashreq Bank went through a period of state-ownership and management (1975-1991) before it was privatized <snip>

The above is probably boilerplate lifted from a Mashreq Bank web site.
Here comes the 'customized' scammy bit:

My name is Eddie Patrick (Mr.)I work with MASHREQ BANK as the Chief Accountant supervising Saleh Kamel al-GHURAIR whom is the senior brother to the CEO of Mahreq Bank who died that own the Foundation. On May 19, 2007, Saleh Kamel al-GHURAIR announced his plans to give $10m (Ten Million United States Dollars) to set up the Saleh Kamel al-GHURAIR Foundation, an educational foundation in the Middle East , one of the largest charitable donations in history. Saleh Kamel al-GHURAIR stated that the money is meant to bridge the knowledge gap between the Arab region and the developed world, improving the standard of education and research in the region, developing leadership programs for youth, and stimulating job creation. The announcement was made at the 2008 World Economic Forum in Jordan.

The foundation funds in three areas: Culture, Entrepreneurship and employment, and Knowledge and Education but passed away and could not accomplish his project. Until this very moment the money has been deposited with my bank MASHREQ BANK and no one has ever come up to claim this fund, Mr Saleh Kamel al-GHURAIR and his family are ranked 258 billion richest people in the world.

This is a Dead Bank Customer 'format' - the victim is asked to (fraudulently) claim an inheritance - but the scammer has managed to mangle this frequently-used letter so that it makes even less sense than usual.

But i will like you to understand very well that I need some one who is competent in these transaction as i am not forcing you out of your will in these transaction because there is a fee involved because am I am going to bear some charges as well in other for me to get you all the necessary document involved in these transaction and that is the truth of the matter, all you need to pay for is $385 united states dollars for the activation of your account after creating your account which I will be given you the ACCOUNT NUMBER,USER NAME AND PASS WORD for you to access your account online because the MASHREQ BANK is also affiliated to CITIBANK which you can transfer to any CITIBANK or any of your designated bank account in your country but all the legal document will be willed to you because I don't want any problems since am still an active worker of these bank but I just want you to understand that am not forcing you against your wish but I need who is competent to handle these with me. If you know that thes

For 4 years it has been watched and no one came forth to claim it; I do not know if this transaction suits your personal or business ethics Gee, why would there be an ethical problem? but I do want you to understand that this transaction is free from any irregularities. I will be obtaining all relevant documents from the remittance department and have it changed to your name before presenting you as the next of Kin automatically if you wish to receive this fund. As soon as the fund is transferred to your account, I will put away all documents to cover any trace of the fund.

As a banker, I wish to keep you informed that I will set up an account in your name with my bank and have the money deposited into this account after legally becoming next of Kin; I will tell you that this is very easy for me to do if I can gain your trust. All I need from this transaction is 50% of the total sum as you can keep 35% to yourself but I would like you to give back for charity 15% when the fund eventually gets to you. I know you would be very much interested, kindly choose the best option of payment you prefer but before then you must provide me with the details below;

First Name.............
Middle Name.........
Surname................
Address1...............
Address2................
City........................
State/Province.......
Post/Zip..................
Country..................
Telephone No........
Fax No. .................
E-mail Address......
Company Name ..
Name of Current Employer (Write Self Employed if so)
Date of Birth (yyyy-mm-dd)
Copy of International Passport
Ding ding ding! Don't send scammers copies of your important papers!

Payment options:
A, Telegraphic Wire Transfer to Your Account in your country of residence
B. Wire Transfer through a local Bank to Bank Transfer
C. Cash Delivery
D. Pick Up from Bank within the Next 72 Hours.

I hope to hear from you soon as you will never regret working with me.

Thank you

Mr. Eddie Patrick
Chief Accountant
MASHREQ BANK ®
Tel: (+2) 01123 124 808
Fax: (+2) 01123 043 843
Email:patrick.eddie@accountant.com
Email:patrick_eddie@rocketmail.com

"Eddie" is not from Mashreq Bank, but you knew that. Right?
If not, go back to the main page of this site and read everything, especially the FAQ.

This email and any attachments to it contain information that is onfidential and may be privileged. Ha!It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error, please return it to the sender and delete the email from your records.

(Typical AFF scam, including the immediate ask for the cash. I typically send out a short confused response, just to see if the lad will bite. This one sure did!)

Lou Sindor
Did this go to the right person?
Eddie Patrick

I really appreciate your concern which i will like you to be the next of kin to the deceased because i have all the vital documentations porpourting your claims as the beneficiary,thank you.

Eddie.

Lou Sindor

Wow, is that legal?

Please send me the documents you're talking about. I need to know exactly what this is all about.

Eddie Patrick

Thank you for the response sir before we forge ahead you will need to provide me with vital information because you will have to fill the bank form normally due to the kind of transaction involved and i can not just give you the documentations like this,hope you have read the content of these email very well about the activation fees,because the account is still domant and you will need to reactivate it while i give you the new account number with the user name and password to access your account online for the internet banking system or by Tel banking but lastly can i have your direct contact phone number in other for us to speak over the phone to know whom am dealing with ,thank you.

Eddie.

Lou Sindor

I'm sorry, but I don't actually have a phone. It's one of the drawbacks for living in paradise...the beautiful Hawaiian island of Molokai has very limited services, but is a fantastic place to retire to!

Is this going to be a problem?

Eddie Patrick

Thank you for the immediate response there is not going to be any problems because i will provide you with all the legal documentations and since this is an internet banking services you dont seems to have any problems what so ever because you will be backing all your claims with all the vital paper work involved in this transaction so let your mind be at rest,but i will like you to call me since you can not call me +201123124902

Eddie.

Lou Sindor

You wrote: "i will like you to call me since you can not call me"

What part of "I don't have a phone" did you not understand?

Eddie Patrick

With all due respect i was thinking maybe you can use a public phone to call me that was why i wrote that but i will like to know if you are ready to do this with me because the document has to be duly signed by you so let me know now before we forge ahead you will need to fill the application form for me along with your activation fees respectively,thank you.

Eddie.

Lou Sindor

Go ahead and send me the form and I'll get back to you.

Eddie Patrick

http://www.coalandoil.com/html/images/about_company/logo_mashreq_bank.gif
Chief Accountant
Mr. Eddie Patrick
Tel: (+2) 01123 124 808
Fax: (+2) 01123 043 843
Email:Patrick.eddie@accountant.com.

Dear Customer;

You are welcome to the foreign remittance / online department of MASHREQ BANK.

I am very appreciative of your recent mail. I have attached a form which you should fill out carefully which will help in setting up of your account. I have been the Chief Accountant of Saleh Kamel al-GHURAIR Foundation for several years and the account I have monitored carefully until this very moment. Once I have completed setting up an account with my bank in your name, I will immediately transfer the total sum of USD10, 000,000.00 into your account. I will furnish you with your bank account coordinates but you will not be able to initiate any transfer of the fund until I have received the following documents at my own expense from various departments and boards.

www.mashreqonlinebanking.com.
Fund Ownership Certificate
Anti-Money Laundering Questionnaire
Anti-Drug and Money Laundering Clearance Certificate
Internal Operating Regulations (for your perusal)
Certificate of Deposit
Mashreq Bank Operating License (for your perusal)

All the above listed Documents will be made available to you before or after your account has been set up with MASHREQ BANK and your fund deposited into your account giving you access to transfer online to your designated bank account in your Country. Always remember that 50% of the total sum is mine and 15% goes to charity as you keep 35% to yourself.

I hope to hear from you soon as you will never regret working with me.

Thank you
Mr. Eddie Patrick

(There was a passport scan and a generic form attached, but they were unremarkable. Time to get this lad back to playing by my rules.)

Lou Sindor

I can't seem to open the form, but your identification came through just fine. Can you re-send it in a different format?

Eddie Patrick
MASHREQ BANK Group Office:
MASHREQ BANK EGYPT BRANCH
6th of October Branch
43B, 3rd Industrial Zone, 6th of October
Telephone: +2 011 2312 4808
Telephone: +2 011 2304 3843
FAX: +202 38327232

Your Ref: ............. Our Ref: ............. Date: .........

Application Form

NOTE: This Application Form must be completed by the Applicant and submitted back to the Head of Department for the process of setting up of account/Fund Release. The Head of Department must approve this Application Form before your account is being set up or Fund Released.

Applicants Information

Name of Applicant:
First name ..........
Middle name..........
Last name...........................

Address of Applicant:
Address: .............
City: ...................................................
State/Province: ...................................
Post/Zip: .............................................
Country: ............

Telephone: Mobile: ............
Land Phone: ..........

Date of Birth: ..........
Sex: ...............
Email: .............
Place of Work: .........
SSN: .............. Warning bells!
Next of Kin: ..........

Name and Address of Applicants Company:
Company name: ..........
Company Address: ........
City: ...................................................
State/Province: ...................................
Post/Zip: .............................................
Country: ............

Telephone:
Mobile: ............
Land Phone: ..........

BANK COORDINATES (your existing bank account information.s)
Bank Name: ...........
Bank Address: ...........
City: ...................................................
State/Province: ...................................
Post/Zip: .............................................
Country: ............
Bank Account#.................................. no no no!
Bank Routing# ..........
Bank Swift Code# ........
Marital Status: .........
Occupation: ..........

Total Sum to be deposited into Account

.................

Type of Payment (Tick One)
Contract: ...........
Inheritance: ..........
Winning: ...........

Identity:
International Passport: .......
Your states Drivers License: ....

.......................
Signature of Applicant

Eddie Patrick

I really appreciate your concern sir you can read the following procedures the way it was sent to you vivdly with the infomation appropriately while you fill the form with the normal format i sent it kindly get back because i will be given you all the legal documentation while i receive your full details and with the activation payment nromally in other to access your account online and begin with the transfer,thank you as i await your response.

My regard,

Eddie.

Lou Sindor

But why do you need my bank account information? I thought we had to set up a new one...

Eddie Patrick

Thank you for the great question you will need to put in your account cordinates in your country because that is where the fund will be transfered into but also if you dont want sir it is not a problems all what am after is these information and your attached identification due to my data base where your information will be recorded.

I shall be given you all the legal papers to sign because these is an internet banking which is more faster or the Tel banking account for your information sir we have Mashreq bank in New york and Alberta canada which you can also withdraw your funds from and most especially the Gold Master card to withdraw from an ATM machine,sir once the information is received i will open your file and start with the documentation appropriately as the next of kin to this fund,thank you for the swift response.

My regards,

Eddie.

(Painful to read, isn't it? Fear not - it gets worse.)

Lou Sindor

So what happens next? This is all very confusing.

Eddie Patrick

http://www.coalandoil.com/html/images/about_company/logo_mashreq_bank.gif
Chief Accountant
Mr. Eddie Patrick
Tel: (+2) 01123 124 808
Fax: (+2) 01123 043 843
Email:Patrick.eddie@accountant.com.

Dear Customer;
You are welcome to the foreign remittance / online department of MASHREQ BANK.

Its convicing here too because i have waited for a weeks now to hear back from you as i have told you before if you dont want to send your bank coordinates fine because this is a legal transaction which am not ready to play arround with that is why i need some one who is competent to handle this with me.

Sir i will like to know if you are ready as i have sent you the bank form to fill out in other for you to start processing your documentations by now you should have signed the vital paper work now along with the transfer processes to begin within 72 hours.

Payment options:
A, Telegraphic Wire Transfer to Your Account in your country of residence
B. Wire Transfer through a local Bank to Bank Transfer
C. Cash Delivery
D. Pick Up from Bank within the Next 72 Hours.

I hope to hear from you soon as you will never regret working with me.

(Re-hash the same script after all this time.? Unacceptable, time for a spanking.)

Lou Sindor

That's pretty rude of you. You've not answered my questions or satisfied my concerns and then you complain about ME?

I would appreciate hearing from your superior as it seems obvious that you're not capable of handling this sort of business.

Eddie Patrick

I really appreciate your kind gesture here mr Lou i have not insulted you in any form and mind you as i have said before am not forcing you on this deal despite you saying that you need to speak with my superior,once again nobody knows about this transaction and i have not given you any form of documentations to sign for these transaction.

If i ask you that i need some one whom is competent doesnt mean am insulting you meaning you have the form and you have not fill it also you dont have a phone number in other to speak with you okay kindly think of what am saying and next time dont say am rude okay.

(Yeah, that made me laugh, too. "Kind gesture"?)

Lou Sindor

So it's just you and me, is it? Fine then, let's work together on this. I need to know ALL the details about this deal before I send you anything, so please fill in all the blanks for me and we can move forward.

Eddie Patrick

Well sir i dont want to be rude to you as you have just write me now make feel so unsafe with this transaction how can i fill the informations that i dont even know what and what would you want me to write there am i the beneficiary?

Mine is to give you all the legal document in other to provide you with all legal document as the beneficiary to the fund which you are to claims while i put all your informations down in our data base as the chief accountant of Mashreq Bank so that nothing bad happens due to fraud and money laundering,you are asking me to fill these form for you,any way as i have said previously i need some one whom is competent to handle this transaction with me because i have been keeping these for years i think you should plan yourself very because this is not a childs play have a great day.

Ed.

Lou Sindor

All right, don't get all sappy on me. Tell me again exactly what information you need and I'll send it along.

Eddie Patrick

Sir i must say is great talking to you and i really appreciate your kind response all i have sent to you involved your full details your full details as in your data passport pages or your drivers licence and your other related information and your presents working places and i will need your next of kin,as i have told you before i will need you to fill in your account coordinates because that is the account you will need to move this fund.

Your direct phone number is very compulsory because i will need to furnish your claims with all the legal document in other words sir they might call you from our head offices because i dont want any problems for you in other for you to sign all the appropriate documents involved in these transaction,as i am not ready to get my self involved in fraud and money laundering because am still an active worker of Mashreq bank.

Signature of Applicant.

Eddie.

(Now he seems to be confusing HIMSELF. It's like he's copying from different scripts and then just slapping them together. More confusion should help.)

Lou Sindor

I'm afraid I don't have a phone here and I don't have a "presents working places" because I'm retired, but I can at least give you the information for the form

Louis A. Sindor
P.O. Box 1422297
Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii 96770
Next of kin is Martin McSorley (son-in-law)
Driver's license number is HI9400538R (Hawaii, USA)

(Everything in that was fictitious except the zip code, just in case he checks. I doubt he will, but you never know.)

Eddie Patrick

Thank you so much for every thing sir i will open your file as soon as possible were you aware about the activation fees if we must forge ahead because i will have to give you the AFFIDAVIT OF CLAIMS AND CHANGING OF OWNERSHIP along with the APPROVAL CERTIFICATES from the presidency offices as i have stated before because this a legit transaction is not fraud for you to be able to login online and transfer the fund along with a Tel banking account which i will also create for you due to internet server error,but you will have to pay for the activation fees which is previously stated on my email to you from the on set after this there is know more payment is just to go ahead and transfer the fund while i give you my mothers account to transfer my own share to Italy my mothers account,thank you as i await your response in other to accomplish this together.

Eddie.

Lou Sindor

Your mother's account? What do you mean? Are you talking about the $385?

Eddie Patrick

FIRST SIR YOU WILL HAVE TO TRANSFER MY OWN %50 PERCENT TO MY MOTHERS ACCOUNT IN ITALY WHILE YOUR OWN %35 PERCENT WHICH IS YOUR SHARE TO YOUR DESIGNATED BANK ACCOUNT WHILE THE BALANCE OF %15 PERCENT FOR CHARITY IN YOUR COUNTRY BUT THE $385 USD WILL HAVE TO BE PAID BY WESTERN UNION TO OUR FINANCIAL SECERETARY AFTER YOU MUST HAVE SIGNED SOME OF THE BENEFICIARY DOCUMENT IN YOUR NAME.

MEAN WHILE I WILL NEED TO GET YOU THE POWER OF ATTORNEY WHICH YOU WILL AOS SIGN AND MOST OF THE IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS INVOLVED IN THIS TRANSACTION PORPURTING YOUR CLAIMS,THANK YOU.

(Finally the WU request. Now to start the wrestling portion of the show!)

Lou Sindor

Oh, I see...complicated, but it makes sense. Unfortunately, I don't have Western Union here on Molokai. Is that going to be a problem?

Eddie Patrick

Not at all but with out the payment for the activation fees there is nothing we can do sir i must confess to you becauase these account has been domant for years so it needs to be activated because i have to open any account in your own name so what can you do or you can also use a money gramme to make the payment but apart from all this mode of payment which is more faster there is nothing i can because i want you to start with the paper work first thing tomorrow morning.

Lou Sindor

I understand, but that's where the problem lies. We have no Western Union or MoneyGram here on the island, if I want to get those services I either have to swim or grow wings!

When I bought my truck, I simply sent the money straight from my bank to the dealer's bank. Can we do that? We'll be sending money back and forth eventually, why not start now? That would certainly be the quickest.

What do you think?
Eddie Patrick

Fine your idea is not bad sir it will take long process and as i have told you before i dont want to be notified about this transaction my own is to support your claims as the chief accountant and to create your account in our data base as the real owner to these account that is why you need to make this mode of payment which your receipts of payment will be included in your documents,but if you want us to forge ahead that is the only way we can accomplished this.

(No, that didn't make sense. The script has been totally ditched at this point and he's relying on his own internal genius to try to get paid. Bad strategy.)

Lou Sindor

I don't think it will take that long, I can expedite things from my bank. Given our remote location, the bank does this all the time. Why do you think it will be a long process?

It would be a whole lot longer if you had to wait for me to get to Oahu!

Eddie Patrick

Thank you once again for the response it will take a atleast 10 working days here in egypt and this transaction can only take atleast 72 hours after you might have signed all the legal documentation and the opening of account which is the offhsore account that will open on your behalf which is a business account but i will like to know exact time you want to go to ohio but i can also help you to get a nearer location where a western union is located in your area if you dont mind.

Lou Sindor
Not "Ohio", Oahu. It's the most populated island in the state. Why would it take ten days? I've sent wire transfers account-to-account that are done in 48 hours. It costs me a few extra dollars, but it sure seems like it would be worth it.
Eddie Patrick

western union location near Maunaloa, HI, USA

Western Union
7192 Kalanianaole Highway, Honolulu, HI, United States
+1 808-395-3131 · westernunion.com
"Western Union - Moving Money for Better. Find locations; Track transfer; Estimate price; Customer support. Register; Manage Profile; Log In; Log Out" - westernunion.com

Western Union
2370 Kuhio Avenue, Honolulu, HI, United States
+1 808-923-9831 · westernunion.com
"Western Union FOOD PANTRY #01) in Honolulu, Hawaii (money transfer) - Location & Hours. Hawaii Western Union in Honolulu. Monday: 08:00 AM - 8:00 PM ..." - mystore411.com

Western Union
435 Atkinson Drive, Honolulu, HI, United States
+1 808-946-2435 · westernunion.com
"Other popular stores in Honolulu. Da Kine; Nixon; Western Union; Hurley; Sanuk; Clarisonic; Boost Mobile; NAPA Auto Center. More store locations in Honolulu" - mystore411.com

Western Union
# 101, 820 West Hind Drive, Honolulu, HI, United States
Aina Haina Shopping Center
+1 808-373-2222 · westernunion.com
"Western Union - Moving Money for Better. Find locations; Track transfer; Estimate price; Customer support. Register; Manage Profile; Log In; Log Out" - westernunion.com

Western Union
878 Front Street, Lahaina, HI, United States
Old Lahaina Shopping Center
+1 808-661-0975 · westernunion.com
"Western Union - Moving Money for Better. Find locations; Track transfer; Estimate price; Customer support. Register; Manage Profile; Log In; Log Out" - westernunion.com

(It seems that 100% of the lads I use my Molokai routine on spend the time to research the WU locations for me. How helpful.)

Eddie Patrick

I have just sent you a very important information which you can send a money online but let me know what you are up to sir because i will be opening your account first thing tomorrow monring in other for us to forge ahead as i have told you before sir it will take few days due to Egypt as i have told you that this is a top secrete between us and i will never let you down as i will provide you with all paper work involved in this transaction.

Lou Sindor

You don't listen sometimes, you know that?

Lahaina is on the island of Maui, Honolulu is on the island of Oahu. I am on Molokai. It's really pretty simple...if I want to send cash (which is what I have), then it needs to be done at the bank here. Unless, of course, you want to buy me a boat!

Eddie Patrick

So what do you suggest sir??

(You can see the deer-in-headlights gaze in his eyes, can't you?)

Lou Sindor

I was right...you're not listening.

As I said, I can transfer the money right from here to you, expedited by my bank. It won't take more than a day or two, regardless of where you are. We're going to need to do this a bunch anyway, if I understand your scheme.

Why is this a problem for you?
Eddie Patrick

Fine i do understand you moch better hope you know where am mailing you from it is Egypt and that is why i told you it will take 10 working days before the fund is cleared and more so i hope you know what is going on in the midele east now maybe you should take your time to find a way and get back tomorrow on how you can make the payment by western union as i have told you before so that i can open your file by tomorrow.

(When they start squirming, it's time to get pushy. I'm really starting to like this lad.)

Lou Sindor

I know what's going on in the middle east, but what does that have to do with banking? Go to YOUR bank and let them know it's coming and they can also expedite things.

What about your mother's account that you mentioned? Where is that located?

Lou Sindor
Isn't it the middle of the night there?
Eddie Patrick

My mothers account is in Italy sir hope you understand what am saying at all sir i need you to find a waay to send western union because i have just told you i want them to know how you are making this payment because you are a business mogul and i dont want to be suspected by any fom of account issues and perharps it will take a long process as we shall be rounding up very soon.

You have already told me it will take you few days to make the payment by western union which i want the receipts to be included in your file as your mode of payment if you can not get this done by this way sir i dont think we can push this far because it will take maximum of 10 working day which i have told you and scanning processing.

(WU again? Sorry, that's not going to make me happy. Slapping time again.)

Lou Sindor

Now you're not making any sense at all.

There is no unrest in Italy, so the money could be there in a day or so. How is it that Western Union makes me a "business mogul"? Any idiot can use Western Union. If you're trying to impress these people, a transfer from a bank is obviously more secure and impressive.

And I did not say it would take a few days to use Western Union. I'd have to go to another island, don't you get it? If you want to send me a plane ticket, that's up to you.

Lou Sindor

(Time to let him stew for a bit.)

I have to go away from my computer now to meet someone, but will be back tomorrow. I expect that you'll have the account worked out by then.

Lou Sindor

(Two days later, I bet he thinks I bailed. Time to wind him back up again.)

I have not heard from you...what's going on?

Eddie Patrick

Thank you for your concern sir i have know alternatives than for you to send these charges by western union or money gram if we need to forge ahead of this transaction because i need to give you those two vital documents which i have told you before,sir i will like you to know that this is a mutual agreement which i have been keeping for so long because i dont want your name to be recorded as for now meaning only on western union payment that you have not been arround in Egypt for so long.

But you want to transfer your fund due to you are a business man and you are only paying your charges fees on air after you have the approval of central bank of Egypt which will issue your transfer slips, with out any further delayed,i want you to have a good reason to my proposal because i know that you really want to do this with me ,thank you for your understanding.

Eddie.

(It's like a stream of words that don't really go together, isn't it? Time to slap him for it, since he's delaying the sending of the money.)

Lou Sindor

I'm not sure I'm following all that. How many times do I have to tell you that there is NO Western Union or Moneygram available here? You've wasted nearly an entire day ignoring my words.

I can go to the bank RIGHT NOW to transfer the money to the Italian account and it will be there by the end of the weekend. What's the problem here?

Eddie Patrick

I think i have figure out an account in united states where you can make the payment because i have a business associates in las vegas but i will have to discuss with her due to fraud every body is very careful with his/her account so please be patients with me in getting the account information there after you will give me the scanned copy of the payment when you transfer money into this account,let me know if these is okay by you .

Eddie.

Eddie or a designee could pick up a money order anywhere in the world. If Lou insists on a bank transfer, Eddie must line up a crony - or victim, see comments further below - to receive the transfer. Note, scammers are perfectly capable of setting up their own bank accounts. Just because a scammer actually has a bank account doesn't make him less of a scammer.

Lou Sindor

That would be perfect. I know for a FACT that I can send money overnight to Las Vegas. Funny how easy it is to send cash to places where people gamble it away, don't you think?

I play a lot of poker when I visit there, so I know that works just fine. Thanks for being flexible.

Eddie Patrick

Well i dont understand what you are talking about because the perosn whom am talking about is not a gambler but if you are not interested know big deal but this is the only way i can go there is know alternative.

(I have no idea where that came from, but I certainly need to pull him back into my world. Time to compliment him on his idea.)

Lou Sindor

No, no, you misunderstood. What I'm say is, because there is so much gambling in Las Vegas, the banks there have made it very, very easy to transfer money. As I said, it's a perfect idea on your part.

Eddie Patrick

Good i will get back to you very soon with the bank coordinates because i will need to call her to be aware of the present situation as i have told you before but sir i will appreciate it if you can provide me with a phone number to speak with you in other to know whom am dealing with.

Lou Sindor

I wish I could, but I don't have phone service available here. The satellite company has been saying it will be available "next year" for a long time, but it hasn't happened yet. The beaches are beautiful on this side of the island, but there's not much else here but sand!

Once you send me the Las Vegas information, I'll make the trip into town on the other side and take care of the transfer.

Lou Sindor

I could send you a picture so you would at least know what I look like.

Eddie Patrick

Very good i will appreciate it can i have a look sir?

Lou Sindor

Sure, here's a couple from my last trip to the mainland.

(These were stock 'outdoorsman' shots straight out of an advertisement for work boots. I looked sufficiently retired and gray. Good that there were multiple shots of the same model! Interesting how they got so large, though.)

Eddie Patrick

Very good i have seen it while i was even trying to talk to her which every one is scared to drop his or her account information due to fraud no kidding but sir you will have to wait till i get an account she leaves in nevada,but to be honest with you sir dont you have any relatives out hawaii that you can make payment into there account and have him /her to help you to send western union,because i find this so difficult honestly i can not lie to you because by now we have to be on with the next level.

While you will be signing for all the beneficiary documents along with the account coordinates respectively,i really trust you about what you have told me about western union out let in your states but i will appreciate it better because i beleive you really want to do this with me as one so kindly try sir to get a way because i want you to start with the signing documents which is very important because we shall be rounding up for the year soon,thank you.

Eddie.

(My guess is that boss-man told him to insist on WU. Tough cookies, pal.)

Lou Sindor

That was kind of confusing, but if you're asking if I have family that can send the money, the answer is no. I have a son from my first marriage but he's a lawyer and NOT an honest one. The bank transfer is really our only option at this point.

(If you've seen some of my other baits, this is a setup from bringing in the evil lawyer later, if I get the chance. He's a terrible person.)

I can send you the payment information once I make the transfer and then your friend in Las Vegas can have me locked out of it. Or maybe she could have the bank change her account status so it can only receive deposits, that should make her more comfortable, don't you think?

Eddie Patrick

Okay i shall get back to you as soon i get through with her because i have told her that you are a very respectable person but i shall updates you very soon thank you.

Lou Sindor

Very good, and thank you for your trust. Now we can get this thing moving!

Eddie Patrick

FInally i have speoke to customer in Canada whom as been willing to help he as just gave me his account coordinates who has an account with us in Mashreq bank you can pay in to his account in Canada if you are ready now sir let me know in other to give you the information in other to accomplishe this together.

(Canada? Interesting.I wonder if the boss gave in or if he went to someone else?)

The 'customer' in Canada could be another scammer, OR a scam VICTIM, unknowingly enlisted to transfer money ("dream work-at-home job!").
Ugly scenario #1: You are sent a fake check. You are told to deduct a bit for your services, and urged to send a money order for the difference NOW. The fake check may get by your bank clerk, but it will bounce eventually and you will be dunned for the difference, or worse, prosecuted for fake checkery.
Ugly scenario #2: The scammer sends you a REAL check - stolen and altered, or the result of some other crime. This is money laundering.
Ugly scenario #2a: same as #2, but re-shipping physical goods which the scammers bought with stolen credit cards.

And now back to our regularly scheduled scambait.

Lou Sindor

That works, I suppose. It's too late to get to the bank today, since it's quite a drive, but I can transfer the money to you first thing in the morning and then update you once I'm back. Perfect!

Eddie Patrick

Am still waiting to hear from you sir if you are ready now we can proceed then after making this payment you can give me the payslips in other to scan to him that a payment as been makde to his account in Canada,i await your response now.

Eddie.

(C'mon, c'mon.)

Lou Sindor

Yes, as I said in my last message, if I get the bank information now I can make the transfer when the bank opens first thing in the morning. Did you not receive that?

Eddie Patrick
Alright thank you i shall be waiting to hear from you with the payment slips here are the bank coordinates below:

Account information of {another possible scam victim}.

Send by RIA Worldwide Transfer to:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Account Name at Branch# 1769 {a bank}
C/O {another possible scam victim} Box xxx LCD 1
Medicine Hat, Alberta
Canada T1A 7G6.

Branch Address:
113-105 Carry Drive SE
Medicine Hat, Alberta
Canada, T1B 3M6.

I shall be waiting to hear from you,thank you.

Eddie.
Lou Sindor

Got it, thank you. I'll get back to you in the morning.

(Whew! That was a chore. Two weeks for a single account? Brutal. I fear that there are going to be some serious problems in Canada, however. If I can crank this lad back up, I'll add the second phase of the adventure. Bait safe, y'all.)